<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Atheists Lack Political Clout</title>
	<atom:link href="http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/2008/10/25/atheists-lack-political-clout/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/2008/10/25/atheists-lack-political-clout/</link>
	<description>Splitting philosophical hairs</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:51:28 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Morales</title>
		<link>http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/2008/10/25/atheists-lack-political-clout/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/?p=118#comment-570</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gays and lesbians did not assert the superiority of their sexual orientation, nor did they try to claim equal rights and equal protection while simultaneously seeking to prove heterosexuals wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure if this is sophistry or contrarianism, but didn&#039;t LGBs try to prove that the &lt;i&gt;belief&lt;/i&gt; that homosexuality is wrong wrong?  As I see it, each out-group is claiming that the beliefs of the majority are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gays and lesbians did not assert the superiority of their sexual orientation, nor did they try to claim equal rights and equal protection while simultaneously seeking to prove heterosexuals wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this is sophistry or contrarianism, but didn&#8217;t LGBs try to prove that the <i>belief</i> that homosexuality is wrong wrong?  As I see it, each out-group is claiming that the beliefs of the majority are wrong.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alonzo Fyfe</title>
		<link>http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/2008/10/25/atheists-lack-political-clout/comment-page-1/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>Alonzo Fyfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://polypyloctomy.24kblogs.com/?p=118#comment-568</guid>
		<description>I agree with you about &quot;ridiculing religious belief&quot; in a sense.

An argument that says, &quot;Here is a patently absurd religious belief; therefore, all religion is patently absurd,&quot; is simply a bad argument. It is an argument that nobody who loves reason would make.

However, a person can reject this inference and still ridicule the most ridiculous religious beliefs. It is patently absurd to believe that the Earth is 10,000 years old (or less). I don&#039;t have to respect it. I don&#039;t have to respect those people who think it is true. It does not imply that all religion is bad. However, the fact that this implication does not hold does not prevent me from saying that those whose religion takes them down this particular path are wrong.

I make the same point about instances where people put up a sign of the World Trade Center with the text &quot;Imagine no religion.&quot; These people are failing to make the distinction between the claim, &quot;A religion did this,&quot; and &quot;Religion does this.&quot; It is the same form of bigotry as pointing to a black man who committed rape and saying &quot;A black man did this,&quot; versus, &quot;Black men do this.&quot;

I typically advcate simple truth and reason. If a belief is absurd, then say it is absurd. If a religion advocates something evil then say that it advocates something evil. There is no need to make generalizations that allegedly report what is true of all religion. In fact, those types of inferences are almost never valid. A reason-loving person should know and respect that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about &#8220;ridiculing religious belief&#8221; in a sense.</p>
<p>An argument that says, &#8220;Here is a patently absurd religious belief; therefore, all religion is patently absurd,&#8221; is simply a bad argument. It is an argument that nobody who loves reason would make.</p>
<p>However, a person can reject this inference and still ridicule the most ridiculous religious beliefs. It is patently absurd to believe that the Earth is 10,000 years old (or less). I don&#8217;t have to respect it. I don&#8217;t have to respect those people who think it is true. It does not imply that all religion is bad. However, the fact that this implication does not hold does not prevent me from saying that those whose religion takes them down this particular path are wrong.</p>
<p>I make the same point about instances where people put up a sign of the World Trade Center with the text &#8220;Imagine no religion.&#8221; These people are failing to make the distinction between the claim, &#8220;A religion did this,&#8221; and &#8220;Religion does this.&#8221; It is the same form of bigotry as pointing to a black man who committed rape and saying &#8220;A black man did this,&#8221; versus, &#8220;Black men do this.&#8221;</p>
<p>I typically advcate simple truth and reason. If a belief is absurd, then say it is absurd. If a religion advocates something evil then say that it advocates something evil. There is no need to make generalizations that allegedly report what is true of all religion. In fact, those types of inferences are almost never valid. A reason-loving person should know and respect that fact.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

